Perl complaint seen on EZMLM mailing list

[Mark-Jason Dominus <mjd@plover.com>]

I don't understand the complaint, but I thought it might be of
interest to someone else on this list.

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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:10:41 -0700 (MST)
From: "Scott D. Yelich" <scott@scottyelich.com>
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To: Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com>
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Subject: Documentation groan.
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On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Anand Buddhdev writes:
>  > To be fair to this guy, the new daemontools-0.61 (of which multilog is a
>  > part) does not come with man pages or any other documentation. All the
>  > documentation is at http://cr.yp.to/www/daemontools.html. Why Dan didn't
>  > include man pages is beyond me though.
> Why Dan didn't include the HTML documentation is beyond me.  I was
> trying to install the new daemontools on a machine which was not on
> the net, in a NOC without any web browsers.  Grrrr, grumble grumble.

Sorry for being off topic... this is the ezmlm list and not the qmail
mailing list...  but I just want to get in a quick bitch here since the
forum I'll be bitching about appears to think they are perfect and
everyone else is at fault and refuses to even consider that they might
not be completely perfect in anyway.

Perl is very similar to this.  One use to be able to download a perl
package, compile it and have a complete installation.  Now, it seems,
one has to jump through hoops to get CPAN installed and then every time
there is a problem-- the solution is to "use::someFuckedUpCPAN.pm"
module... and/or to get the latest module versions.  Yes, this is all
fine and dandy for those who want to set up cron to check CPAN every 15
seconds to make sure they have the latest CPAN -- but what about those
poor soles who aren't on the internet?  Yup, you guessed it, perl
numbnuts say those systems are broken anyway and should get a net
connection.

Anyway, I hope Dan doesn't go this route as it certainly doesn't hurt to
have documentation included in a package.  I know Dan's anal about how
his software is distributed, but simply adding a link to the top of
documentation that says something along the lines of ``latest up-to-date
documentation can be found at this URL'' would be sufficient to end the
dicussion about out of date documentation.  ... and lets not even talk
about gnu-info! *ug*

Scott
ps: I still wish all the qmail pieces and parts that come in little
separate files with their own installs had common/base qmail
documentation... but that's another losing battle to fight at another
time.
pps: I do look forward to installing the new ezmlm on all my systems
that use ezmlm.  :-)

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